Legislature(2023 - 2024)BUTROVICH 205

03/23/2023 03:30 PM Senate HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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03:30:48 PM Start
03:31:19 PM SB24
04:25:07 PM Adjourn
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         SB  24-PUBLIC SCHOOLS: MENTAL HEALTH EDUCATION                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:31:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON  announced the  consideration of  SENATE BILL  NO. 24                                                              
"An Act  relating to  mental health  education; and providing  for                                                              
an effective date."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He stated that this  is the first hearing and the  intention is to                                                              
hear the introduction  and sectional analysis followed  by invited                                                              
and public testimony.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:31:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR ELVI GRAY-JACKSON,  District G, Alaska  State Legislature,                                                              
Juneau, Alaska,  sponsor of SB  24, introduced the  legislation by                                                              
reading the sponsor statement:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     SB 24  amends the existing  health education  curriculum                                                                   
     statute to  include mental  health curriculum in  all K-                                                                   
     12 health  classrooms to adequately educate  students on                                                                   
     vital   information   pertaining    to   mental   health                                                                   
     symptoms, resources, and treatment.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The   Alaska  State   Board  of   Education  and   Early                                                                   
     Development and  the Alaska Department of  Education and                                                                   
     Early  Development (DEED)  will  develop guidelines  for                                                                   
     instruction  in  mental  health   in  consultation  with                                                                   
     numerous stakeholders.  Such organizations  include, but                                                                   
     are not limited  to the National Council  for Behavioral                                                                   
     Health,   Providence   Health   and   Services   Alaska,                                                                   
     Southcentral  Foundation,   Anchorage  Community  Mental                                                                   
     Health  Services,  Inc., North  Star  Behavioral  Health                                                                   
     System,  and  the  National Alliance  on  Mental  Health                                                                   
     Illness  Alaska.  The  standards will  be  developed  in                                                                   
     consultation   with  counselors,  educators,   students,                                                                   
     administrators,  and other  mental health  organizations                                                                   
     to  form   effective  guidelines   for  school   boards,                                                                   
     teachers, and students.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     After standards  have been  developed, the Alaska  State                                                                   
     Board of Education  and Early Development and  DEED will                                                                   
     be   responsible  for   implementation  throughout   the                                                                   
     Alaska   school   system.   As  with   existing   health                                                                   
     education  curriculum,  the   DEED,  the  Department  of                                                                   
     Health,  and  the  Council   on  Domestic  Violence  and                                                                   
     Sexual  Assault  will provide  technical  assistance  to                                                                   
     school districts  in the development of  personal safety                                                                   
     curricula.   An   existing   school   health   education                                                                   
     specialist  position  will  assist in  coordinating  the                                                                   
     program statewide.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     SB 24  aims to  decrease the  stigma surrounding  mental                                                                   
     illnesses  and increase  students'  knowledge of  mental                                                                   
     health,    encouraging    conversation     around    and                                                                   
     understanding of the issue.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:34:11 PM                                                                                                                    
BESSE ODOM, Staff, Senator Elvi Gray-Jackson, Alaska State                                                                      
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, read the sectional analysis for SB
24:                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section  1: The uncodified  law of  the State of  Alaska                                                                 
     is amended by  adding a new section to  read Legislative                                                                   
     Intent.  This  section  specifies   what  entities  will                                                                   
     develop guidelines for instruction in mental health.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section  2:  This  section  amends  AS  14.30.360(a)  by                                                                 
     removing   the   word   "physical"    when   referencing                                                                   
     instruction  for  health education  and  adding  "mental                                                                   
     health"   and  "physical   health"   to   the  list   of                                                                   
     curriculum  items   each  district  includes   in  their                                                                   
     health education programs.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section  3:  This  section  amends  AS  14.30.360(b)  by                                                                 
     clarifying  that  health  guidelines  developed  by  the                                                                   
     Board of  Education and  Early Development must  provide                                                                   
     standards  for  instruction  in  mental  health  and  be                                                                   
     developed  in  consultation   with  the  Department  and                                                                   
     other entities.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section  4: The uncodified  law of  the State of  Alaska                                                                 
     is amended  by adding  a new section  to read Report  to                                                                   
     the Legislature.  This section  clarifies that  a report                                                                   
     must be  given to the  Senate Secretary and  Chief Clerk                                                                   
     of  the House  of  Representatives. This  report  should                                                                   
     include   a   copy   of   developmentally    appropriate                                                                   
     instruction  and describe  the process  used to  develop                                                                   
     such guidelines.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section  5: The uncodified  law of  the State of  Alaska                                                                 
     is amended by  adding a new section to  read Transition.                                                                   
     Specifically,  the  section   requires  that  the  state                                                                   
     Board of Education  and Early Development  shall develop                                                                   
     the  mental health  guidelines  within  two years  after                                                                   
     the effective day of this Act.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 6: This  section sets an effective  date of July                                                                 
     1, 2023                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:36:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  WILSON  discerned there  were  no  questions and  moved  to                                                              
invited testimony.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:36:39 PM                                                                                                                    
ANN  RINGSTAD, Executive  Director,  National  Alliance on  Mental                                                              
Illness   (NAMI)   Alaska,   Anchorage,   Alaska,   testified   by                                                              
invitation in support  of SB 24. She stated that  NAMI was created                                                              
in 1984  and has affiliates  in Anchorage, Fairbanks,  Juneau, and                                                              
the  North  Slope. Its  mission  is  to  eliminate the  stigma  of                                                              
mental illness  through advocacy,  education, support,  and public                                                              
awareness so  all individuals  and families  that are  affected by                                                              
mental illness are able to build better lives.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
She  thanked the  sponsor for  introducing  SB 24  which seeks  to                                                              
reduce  the  stigma  surrounding   mental  illness  by  increasing                                                              
students'  knowledge and  encouraging  conversations about  mental                                                              
health.  She   reported  that   one  in   six  youths   ages  6-17                                                              
experiences a mental  health condition in any given  year; half of                                                              
all mental  health conditions  begin by age  14; and one  in three                                                              
youths experience  mental health challenges by age  18. Education,                                                              
early recognition  and intervention,  and  prevention are  keys to                                                              
minimizing the prevalence  of mental health issues  in youths. She                                                              
emphasized  that these  conditions  are treatable  and the  people                                                              
experiencing  mental health challenges  need support,  compassion,                                                              
and  care.  Disseminating  accurate  information  in  school  will                                                              
increase  the  likelihood  that children  and  teens  experiencing                                                              
mental  illness  will  be  accepted  by  their  peers.  Addressing                                                              
mental health  issues early  improves the  odds of good  outcomes.                                                              
She  opined   that  strengthening   the  existing  mental   health                                                              
guidelines,  in consultation  with  the stakeholders  the  sponsor                                                              
mentioned,  will guide  school districts  to  educate students  to                                                              
recognize the  warning signs  of mental distress  and know  how to                                                              
get help. Teachers  and counselors are in a frontline  position to                                                              
recognize  subtle changes  in students'  behavior, sometimes  more                                                              
quickly  than parents.  She said  it  is now  more important  than                                                              
ever  to talk  openly and  provide  guidance for  everyone who  is                                                              
impacted by  mental health  issues, but  youth in particular.  She                                                              
thanked   the    committee   for   considering    this   important                                                              
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TOBIN joined the committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:40:55 PM                                                                                                                    
JASON LESSARD,  Youth Mental  Health Advocate, Anchorage,  Alaska,                                                              
testified by  invitation in support of  SB 24. He stated  that for                                                              
the  last  four years  he  had  been working  directly  with  high                                                              
school   students   in   the  Mental   Health   Advocacy   Through                                                              
Storytelling  (MHATS) program.  The students  learn about  various                                                              
aspects  of  mental health  and  how  it  affects them  and  their                                                              
friends. The  students also develop  their personal  stories about                                                              
their  experience  with  mental  illness  and share  them  from  a                                                              
position  of power  at  communitywide storytelling  events.  After                                                              
these  events, it's  common for  the storytellers  to report  that                                                              
students  have approached  them  in  school to  ask  about how  to                                                              
access help.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He emphasized  the data  in Ms.  Ringstad's testimony:  50 percent                                                              
of  all lifetime  mental health  conditions  onset by  age 14;  75                                                              
percent of  all lifetime mental illnesses  onset by age  24 or 25.                                                              
These profound  changes and experiences  are occurring  largely in                                                              
the  teenage  brain and  there  is  little discussion  about  this                                                              
scary  topic.   This  can   be  very   daunting  for   the  people                                                              
experiencing  the  mental  illness  and  the people  who  want  to                                                              
provide  help, which  is  why SB  24 and  the  guidelines it  will                                                              
provide  are so  important. School  districts  have brought  these                                                              
programs  on in  the past  with mixed  results but  they can  feel                                                              
confident  that SB  24 has  been  vetted by  professionals in  the                                                              
mental health  field. Teachers  can also  feel confident  that the                                                              
guidelines will  help them navigate  these conversations  and talk                                                              
about  suicide prevention  in a  proactive and  effective way.  He                                                              
noted that  students from  the MHATS  program would be  testifying                                                              
and their perspective was critical to hear.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:44:58 PM                                                                                                                    
ANGELA  KIMBALL,  Senior Vice  President  of Advocacy  and  Public                                                              
Policy  for   Inseparable,  Alexandria,  Virginia,   testified  by                                                              
invitation  in  support  of  SB 24.  Inseparable  is  an  advocacy                                                              
organization  that  is  focused  on  closing  the  treatment  gap,                                                              
improving  crisis response  services, and  getting help early  for                                                              
youth  experiencing  mental  health conditions.  She  stated  that                                                              
there is  a mental health crisis  among youth and  Alaska students                                                              
are struggling.  She  reported that  in 2019,  nearly four  in ten                                                              
school students  in Alaska reported  feeling persistently  sad and                                                              
hopeless, and one  in five reported having attempted  suicide. She                                                              
said  mental health  challenges  can affect  a youth's  education,                                                              
relationships,  and their  health  and safety,  so getting  mental                                                              
health care  earlier results in  better a outcome.  Unfortunately,                                                              
over half of  Alaska's youth with major depression  do not receive                                                              
any treatment.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. KIMBALL  emphasized that  an important  first step  to support                                                              
youth  in  getting   help  early  is  to  provide   mental  health                                                              
education. This  increases awareness  and understanding  of mental                                                              
health  conditions,  healthy  coping   strategies,  and  effective                                                              
treatment  options.  It also  reduces  stigma and  increases  help                                                              
seeking. According  to a poll  the 4-H organization  commissioned,                                                              
70 percent  of youth said  they wish they  had learned  more about                                                              
mental health  coping mechanisms  in school.  She said SB  24 will                                                              
help by ensuring  that guidelines for developmentally  appropriate                                                              
mental  health education  are  available  to school  districts  in                                                              
Alaska.  She reiterated  support for  SB 24 and  better lives  for                                                              
youths in Alaska.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:47:17 PM                                                                                                                    
IVY  MARSHALL,  Senior,  West  High   School,  Anchorage,  Alaska,                                                              
testified by invitation  in support of SB 24. She  stated that she                                                              
has a personal  interest in SB  24 because even before  the COVID-                                                              
19 pandemic,  she saw  the effects  of mental  illness on  herself                                                              
and  her peers.  School is  difficult  and being  a teenager  with                                                              
access  to  social  media  can  make  it  even  harder.  Sometimes                                                              
students  feel hopeless.  She said the  conversation about  mental                                                              
health came  up this year because  students were feeling  this way                                                              
but realized  they had nobody  to turn  to. The subject  of mental                                                              
illness is shrouded  in stigma and students often  are hesitant to                                                              
reach out to friends  and even teachers. But the  decision to take                                                              
a deep  dive on  the internet  for help  can yield  misinformation                                                              
and miseducation.  Passing SB 24 will  aid in the search  for help                                                              
when students  feel lost  and it can  help prevent serious  mental                                                              
health crises before they happen.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARSHALL  recounted the story of  a West High alumna  who died                                                              
by suicide in her  sophomore year in college. It  shook the school                                                              
and  community into  a  spiral of  "How do  we  prevent this  from                                                              
happening in  the future?"  The intended  help backlashed  and did                                                              
more  harm than  good. SB  24 would  offer  guidelines to  schools                                                              
that want to start  the conversation in a safe and  health way but                                                              
don't know where to start.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARSHALL  shared that she is  a proud member of  MHATS (Mental                                                              
Health   Advocacy   Through   Storytelling)   whose  aim   is   to                                                              
destigmatize the  conversation surrounding mental health.  She has                                                              
seen the difference  this organization has made in  her school and                                                              
peers who attend  the Storytelling shows. She opined  that passing                                                              
SB 24  will have  a positive  effect on  communities and  kids and                                                              
potentially  help save lives.  She urged  the committee  to listen                                                              
to her  and other youths who  support mental health  education and                                                              
a safe school environment for everyone.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:50:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHARLOTEE  CRUIKSHANK,  Junior,  Dimond  High  School,  Anchorage,                                                              
Alaska, stated  that she is  a member of  MHATS and  is testifying                                                              
in strong  support of SB 24.  She described the  current situation                                                              
in  her school  from  a mental  health perspective.  Students  are                                                              
tired  and  stressed out;  their  grades  are dropping  and  their                                                              
attendance is too.  They don't know where to  turn for information                                                              
on  how to  fix what  is wrong.  She  said students  are aware  of                                                              
therapy  and support  groups but  there is a  stigma attached,  so                                                              
they turn  to Google. That  takes students  down a rabbit  hole of                                                              
information  that is  often incorrect  and unsafe.  Passing SB  24                                                              
will  help change  this and  help  destigmatize the  conversations                                                              
around mental health.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. CRUIKSHANK  said she  wanted to speak  today about  the effect                                                              
of suicide from  a firsthand perspective. A student  in her school                                                              
died by suicide  two years ago. It affected everyone;  she saw the                                                              
effect on teachers,  on friends, and on the community  as a whole.                                                              
She emphasized that  stopping suicide starts with  prevention. She                                                              
cited  the statistic  that 50  percent  of all  lifetime cases  of                                                              
mental illness begin  by age 14, and pointed out  that the earlier                                                              
students    receive   safe,    accurate,   and    non-stigmatizing                                                              
information  the  better.  She said  passing  SB  24 will  have  a                                                              
positive  impact and  could very  possibly save  young lives.  She                                                              
urged the  committee members  to use their  position in  office to                                                              
make a change and show that they care.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:52:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON opened public testimony on SB 24.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:52:37 PM                                                                                                                    
LILIANE  ULUKIVAIOLA, representing  self,  Juneau, Alaska,  stated                                                              
that she has worked  with youth across the state  and watched them                                                              
struggle with  mental health issues  and thoughts of  suicide. She                                                              
supports SB 24  because it would allow mental  health education in                                                              
schools which  will give youths  the tools to start  conversations                                                              
about mental wellbeing and safe lives.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:53:39 PM                                                                                                                    
STEVEN  PEARCE,  Director,  Citizens Commission  on  Human  Rights                                                              
(CCHR),  Seattle,  Washington,   stated  that  CCHR,  which  is  a                                                              
psychiatric watchdog  organization, has  concerns about SB  24. He                                                              
said the  bill is  supposed to  be about  mental health  education                                                              
but as  written, it will omit  valuable data that  children should                                                              
be aware  of about  the foundation of  all psychiatric  labels and                                                              
that they're  subjective. He  opined that it  was the role  of the                                                              
legislature  to delineate  boundaries to  ensure the bill  doesn't                                                              
authorize psychiatric labels and diagnosis and referral.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PEARCE said  another  point of  concern  is that  psychiatric                                                              
drugs  are known  to  cause violence  and  contribute to  suicidal                                                              
thoughts.  He maintained  that kids  have been  going through  all                                                              
the   challenges  and   discomforts  of   adolescence  since   the                                                              
beginning  of time,  but it  wasn't  until the  toxic health  care                                                              
system  started drugging  them that  kids started  taking guns  to                                                              
school  and initiating  mass  murder.  He said  there's  a lot  of                                                              
evidence and  material linking violence  and kids being  placed on                                                              
psychiatric drugs.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. PEARCE  concluded that  CCHR is  concerned about these  issues                                                              
and the  form that  the proposed education  will take  in schools.                                                              
CCHR  believes  the  legislature   should  describe  the  proposed                                                              
curriculum in more detail.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:57:45 PM                                                                                                                    
PAMELA  SAMASH, representing  self,  Nenana,  Alaska, stated  that                                                              
she  supports mental  health awareness  but  as a  parent she  had                                                              
three  concerns about  SB  24. First,  she  wanted assurance  that                                                              
parents would  be involved  every step of  the way and  that there                                                              
would be nothing  sneaky. Second, she was concerned  about talking                                                              
about mental  health issues with  little kids. Her  preference was                                                              
to  let  them  be  innocent  kids.   Her  third  concern  was  the                                                              
potential  for  the bill  to  provide a  door  for  the Office  of                                                              
Children's  Services because  "OCS likes  to go  into the  schools                                                              
and they like  to interview kids behind the parents'  backs" which                                                              
can  tear families  apart. She  voiced support  for including  the                                                              
foregoing family protections in SB 24.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:00:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  WILSON discerned  that nobody  else  was online  or in  the                                                              
room  who  wished to  testify.  He  listed  who was  available  to                                                              
answer questions.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:00:44 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  stated that  he cares  deeply about mental  health                                                              
issues  but was  concerned about  placing yet  another mandate  on                                                              
schools.  He  noted  that  the  Anchorage  School  District  (ASD)                                                              
signed  a letter  in support  of SB 24.  He asked  the sponsor  to                                                              
speak about  how ASD plans to  integrate this new  curriculum into                                                              
existing classroom time and resources.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON  clarified  not SB 24  encourages schools  to                                                              
add  mental health  education into  the  curriculum; it  is not  a                                                              
mandate. She asked whether he'd reviewed the fiscal note.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:01:58 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  replied that he  was thinking about  local schools                                                              
and that wouldn't manifest in the fiscal note.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON said  26 agencies,  including the  Anchorage                                                              
School District,  support the bill. She expressed  confidence that                                                              
she  would   have  been  notified   if  ASD  felt  the   bill  was                                                              
burdensome.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:02:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. ODOM  added that SB  24 is an  encouragement, so  schools will                                                              
have the  latitude to  assess their  capacity to  add this  to the                                                              
curriculum. She noted  that more than 20 schools  across the state                                                              
have already implemented some form of mental health education.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:03:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN  stated that  the Senate  Education Committee  heard                                                              
the bill and  received resounding support including  from students                                                              
who implored  the legislature  to  pass the bill.  She also  noted                                                              
that the  National Council of  State Legislatures  (NCSL) reported                                                              
that  last   year  Delaware,  Michigan,  Pennsylvania,   Kentucky,                                                              
Louisiana,   and  Maryland  all   passed  legislation   addressing                                                              
student mental  health and  suicide. She  was pleased  that Alaska                                                              
was  also moving  in  that direction.  She  referenced the  public                                                              
testimony  and  asked  whether anything  in  the  bill  authorizes                                                              
schools to diagnose mental illness in students.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON  said  no;  the bill  is  about  encouraging                                                              
student education.  It doesn't replace  physicians and  it doesn't                                                              
diagnose.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:04:37 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN  asked whether  anything in  the bill authorizes  or                                                              
encourages   involvement   from  OCS   or   any   other  type   of                                                              
organization.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON answered no.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KAUFMAN  asked whether  school districts  were in  any way                                                              
prevented from providing this education right now.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:05:13 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON  replied  that  SB  24  adds  mental  health                                                              
education   to  the   existing   statutes   that  address   school                                                              
curricula.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KAUFMAN asked  whether  schools could  add mental  health                                                              
education to their curricula without SB 24.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:05:47 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON  said she believes  that if it's  in statute,                                                              
it will  encourage more schools  to consider adding  mental health                                                              
education to their curricula.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   KAUFMAN  asked   if  the  fiscal   note  reflects   that                                                              
developing a curriculum  on mental health is outside  the scope of                                                              
the board's normal duties.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON deferred to Ms. Odom.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:06:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  ODOM answered  yes; the  board would  need to  work with  the                                                              
various  agencies  and organizations  identified  in  the bill  to                                                              
develop this curriculum.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:06:54 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAUFMAN directed  attention to  the language  on page  2,                                                              
line 16 that  says, "a school health specialist  position shall be                                                              
established and  funded." He restated  his question  about whether                                                              
this  could be  done with  the existing  resources for  developing                                                              
curricula.  He also asked  whether the  existing health  curricula                                                              
encompasses some element of mental health.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:08:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. ODOM restated  that some districts have implemented  some form                                                              
of  mental health  education, but  the material  was developed  in                                                              
the  Lower 48  and it  doesn't recognize  Alaska's uniqueness  and                                                              
diversity.  SB 24 seeks  to develop  a standard  that can  be used                                                              
throughout the state  so it's uniformly effective in  a village or                                                              
urban school.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON  asked  Deborah Riddle  whether  the  school  health                                                              
education  specialist  position  established  and  funded  in  the                                                              
department was an existing or new position.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:09:57 PM                                                                                                                    
DEBORAH  RIDDLE, Operations  Manager, Division  of Innovation  and                                                              
Education  Excellence (IEE),  Department  of  Education and  Early                                                              
Development,  Juneau,   Alaska,  stated  that  it's   an  existing                                                              
position  that  currently  is  filled.  The  fiscal  note  doesn't                                                              
include that position.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:10:21 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAUFMAN  mentioned  the concern that  was expressed  about                                                              
ensuring parental  involvement, and  asked whether the  department                                                              
was receptive to the request.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:10:44 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON   responded   that  existing  AS   14.03.016                                                              
addresses that issue.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:11:01 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GIESSEL voiced  support for  SB 24 and  pointed out  that                                                              
the  language   about  the  school  health   education  specialist                                                              
position was existing statutory language.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  stated that part  of her clinical practice  is to                                                              
provide health  care in  the Anchorage  School District.  She also                                                              
screens   for   behavioral   health  issues   such   as   anxiety,                                                              
depression, and  suicidal ideation.  She said a behavioral  health                                                              
therapist  is onsite  in many  schools  but as  the sponsor  said,                                                              
none  of these  services  can  be  provided without  the  parent's                                                              
consent.  She underscored  the importance  of these services  with                                                              
data.  She  said  that  since  the   schools  reopened  after  the                                                              
pandemic, she  has provided  health care to  more than  double the                                                              
usual number  of students, many  of which are experiencing  mental                                                              
health issues as a result of being isolated during COVID.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL  reported  that  schools in  both  Anchorage  and                                                              
Fairbanks are offering  mental health education at no  cost to the                                                              
school  district. Contract  organizations  offer  the services  in                                                              
schools if  the principal  agrees and provides  an office  for the                                                              
physical   exams  and   the  behavioral   health  clinician.   She                                                              
encouraged  the committee members  to visit  a school  that offers                                                              
these contracted  services.  She shared some  of her  professional                                                              
experiences in  this venue  to emphasize the  need to  provide the                                                              
opportunity  for these services.  She clarified  that this  is not                                                              
about calling  in OCS; it's about  reaching out to a  fellow human                                                              
being who might need help.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  disputed the claims that mental  health education                                                              
was a way to  manipulate children. She emphasized  that kids today                                                              
are stressed by  things that older generations  didn't experience.                                                              
She also  pointed out  that the  agencies that  will consult  with                                                              
the  state  board on  developing  guidelines  for  developmentally                                                              
appropriate   instruction  in  mental   health  have   specialized                                                              
knowledge in this area.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  said she was bothered  by the size of  the fiscal                                                              
note  and wondered  whether it  could be  reduced if  some of  the                                                              
nonprofits  the sponsor identified  could  serve as volunteers  on                                                              
an  advisory   committee  to  develop   the  guidelines   for  the                                                              
developmentally appropriate instruction in mental health.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:16:32 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON  responded that she couldn't  respond for the                                                              
26  organizations  that  support  the bill,  but  she  would  have                                                              
conversations with the ones she'd worked closely with.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON asked  the sponsor  to repeat  the parental  consent                                                              
statute she mentioned earlier.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON  identified  AS  14.03.016  as  the  statute                                                              
relating  to a  parent's  right  to direct  the  education of  the                                                              
parent's child.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:17:17 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:17:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON reconvened the meeting.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:17:43 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  referenced the  fiscal note and  asked Ms.  Riddle to                                                              
explain the reason  for the one-time expenditure  for 30 committee                                                              
members to  travel twice a year  to meet in person.  She suggested                                                              
that meeting virtually could reduce that overhead.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:18:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. RIDDLE  responded that the  fiscal note modeled  the standards                                                              
the  department  used  in  the  past  for  other  committees.  She                                                              
acknowledged that the meetings could be virtual.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:19:56 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  TOBIN   articulated  the  fiscal  benefits   for  meeting                                                              
virtually and the equity of access.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:20:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  WILSON observed  that  the  statute relating  the  parent's                                                              
right to direct  education of the parent's child  only talks about                                                              
notification  in subsection  (a)(3) and  subsection (d)(2)(A)  and                                                              
(B).  He questioned  whether  the statute  should  be expanded  to                                                              
include notification about other topics that are addressed.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON deferred to Ms. Odom to respond.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ODOM responded  that the  sponsor was  receptive to  amending                                                              
the bill to address the concern.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:22:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL advised  that the age of consent in  Alaska is 18,                                                              
so  a parent  must give  consent for  their child  to receive  any                                                              
service, even  if the  child requests the  service. She  said this                                                              
is the law even if it isn't in the education statutes.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON said  he was talking  about parents  being aware  of                                                              
the topics that  might be addressed in the classroom  because some                                                              
topics could  trigger unexpected  reactions.  If the parents  were                                                              
aware, they  might be  better prepared to  deal with  the reaction                                                              
their child might have.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:24:04 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON  responded by  citing the 2022  Mental Health                                                              
American Report that  found a higher prevalence  of mental illness                                                              
and lower access  to care among youth in Alaska than  46 of the 50                                                              
states and the District of Columbia.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:24:41 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON held SB 24 in committee.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 24 verison A.PDF SHSS 3/23/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 24
SB 24 version A Sponsor Statement.pdf SHSS 3/23/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 24
SB 24 v A Sectional Analysis.pdf SHSS 3/23/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 24
SB 24 FN 1 DEED.pdf SHSS 3/23/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 24
SB 24 Supporting Document - Surgeon-General 1.17.2023.pdf SFIN 2/7/2024 9:00:00 AM
SHSS 3/23/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 24
SB 24 Supporting Document - Data and Statistics on Children's Mental Health 1.24.2023.pdf SFIN 2/7/2024 9:00:00 AM
SHSS 3/23/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 24
SB 24 Supporting Document - Mental Health in Schools 1.17.2023.pdf SFIN 2/7/2024 9:00:00 AM
SHSS 3/23/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 24
SB 24 Supporting Document - A Surprising Remedy 3.10.2023.pdf SFIN 2/7/2024 9:00:00 AM
SHSS 3/23/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 24
SB 24 Letter of Opposition - Lasley.pdf SHSS 3/23/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 24
SB24 Coalition Letter of Support.pdf SFIN 2/7/2024 9:00:00 AM
SHSS 3/23/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 24
SB 24 Citizens Comm on Human Rights Letter.pdf SHSS 3/23/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 24